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	<title>Comments on: The Deciding Factor: book review</title>
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		<title>By: Rani H. Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rani H. Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that analytics can only get you so far. This is why you need the business people or learning people in the picture to give the analytics meaning, to interpret the data. I just think we have to be careful not to frame the debate as either/or. Too much of any one thing can be limiting - diversity is good.

On the military -- there is an interesting site http://www.invism.com -- that shows how they are using cultural, immersive, video training that is visual, emotive, visceral. There are essentailly role plays that train the troops on how to interact with Iraqi people in the war zone -- how to ascertain a threat. Contrast that with the other approach of video data collection -- it may be overkill -- but I think we need both approaches. 

Thanks for the comments Sam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that analytics can only get you so far. This is why you need the business people or learning people in the picture to give the analytics meaning, to interpret the data. I just think we have to be careful not to frame the debate as either/or. Too much of any one thing can be limiting &#8211; diversity is good.</p>
<p>On the military &#8212; there is an interesting site <a href="http://www.invism.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.invism.com</a> &#8212; that shows how they are using cultural, immersive, video training that is visual, emotive, visceral. There are essentailly role plays that train the troops on how to interact with Iraqi people in the war zone &#8212; how to ascertain a threat. Contrast that with the other approach of video data collection &#8212; it may be overkill &#8212; but I think we need both approaches. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments Sam!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rani, this string relates to a question that many in the corporate development world are pondering now - where is learning and development headed?  As corporations continue to ratchet up their expectations for an explanation regarding how their L&amp;D spend translates into value created for the enterprise, professionals in the field continue to struggle with what to measure and how to measure that value created.  The Holy Grail in L&amp;D these days is the L&amp;D RoI.  

Getting back to my point, this book about Analytics could be seen by some in the L&amp;D field to support their thought that L&amp;D is moving more and more to the consultancy side of the continuum in which larger commercial firms with proven methodology will evenutally prevail against the academic business school providers who provide a more theoretical or in some cases customized approach to the client&#039;s problems.  What&#039;s interesting to consider in this debate is that sometimes companies consciously choose the customized approach because they don&#039;t want the consultant&#039;s approach which often forces the problem into Framework X, Y or Z.

Analytics can get you only so far.  I thought it was interesting also to read last week about all the video footage that our military is gathering from unmanned airborne vehicles above Afghanistan.  It seems they are barely keeping up with processing everything they are getting as it comes in and they now have a great deal of video footage that they could review again to make better links between the data they have already but they don&#039;t have the resources to do so.  They are drowning in data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rani, this string relates to a question that many in the corporate development world are pondering now &#8211; where is learning and development headed?  As corporations continue to ratchet up their expectations for an explanation regarding how their L&amp;D spend translates into value created for the enterprise, professionals in the field continue to struggle with what to measure and how to measure that value created.  The Holy Grail in L&amp;D these days is the L&amp;D RoI.  </p>
<p>Getting back to my point, this book about Analytics could be seen by some in the L&amp;D field to support their thought that L&amp;D is moving more and more to the consultancy side of the continuum in which larger commercial firms with proven methodology will evenutally prevail against the academic business school providers who provide a more theoretical or in some cases customized approach to the client&#8217;s problems.  What&#8217;s interesting to consider in this debate is that sometimes companies consciously choose the customized approach because they don&#8217;t want the consultant&#8217;s approach which often forces the problem into Framework X, Y or Z.</p>
<p>Analytics can get you only so far.  I thought it was interesting also to read last week about all the video footage that our military is gathering from unmanned airborne vehicles above Afghanistan.  It seems they are barely keeping up with processing everything they are getting as it comes in and they now have a great deal of video footage that they could review again to make better links between the data they have already but they don&#8217;t have the resources to do so.  They are drowning in data.</p>
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		<title>By: Tools vs. Research, Write, Think, Design &#124; wander@will</title>
		<link>http://wanderatwill.com/2010/01/the-deciding-factor-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Tools vs. Research, Write, Think, Design &#124; wander@will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Research the learners. Are they novices? experts? do they have different roles/needs? can you create personas from these needs? Is it possible to actually collect data on them? How technically savvy are they? How do they get their information? How do they interact with their LMS? Do they interact with the LMS? Examples of defining personas and how to use personas can be found on the Cooper Journal website. One can think of personas as meaningful customer segmentation made real by colorful descriptions &#8212; see the description of how Best Buy uses personas in designing their stores and interacting with their customers in my review of The Deciding Factor. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Research the learners. Are they novices? experts? do they have different roles/needs? can you create personas from these needs? Is it possible to actually collect data on them? How technically savvy are they? How do they get their information? How do they interact with their LMS? Do they interact with the LMS? Examples of defining personas and how to use personas can be found on the Cooper Journal website. One can think of personas as meaningful customer segmentation made real by colorful descriptions &#8212; see the description of how Best Buy uses personas in designing their stores and interacting with their customers in my review of The Deciding Factor. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been interested in personal analytics, given my obsessive ruminatory nature. Kevin Kelly has an interesting site at http://www.quantifiedself.com/ that&#039;s all about tools people can use to gather data about their moods, habits, etc.

A Mac/Windows program to look at in this regard is Optimism (http://www.findingoptimism.com/)

I didn&#039;t know you&#039;d started a new blog! Found a reference to this post on LinkedIn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in personal analytics, given my obsessive ruminatory nature. Kevin Kelly has an interesting site at <a href="http://www.quantifiedself.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quantifiedself.com/</a> that&#8217;s all about tools people can use to gather data about their moods, habits, etc.</p>
<p>A Mac/Windows program to look at in this regard is Optimism (<a href="http://www.findingoptimism.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.findingoptimism.com/</a>)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know you&#8217;d started a new blog! Found a reference to this post on LinkedIn.</p>
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